"the truth will set you free!".
" to everyone outside of their organization it is a "sealed book.
" "not open to the understanding of anyone else?
I think that's the point, TTWSYF. There is no external reason to believe the book viewed as "The Holy Bible" today is God's Word other than its own claim to be so and the fact that around 20% of the planet believes that claim.
Paul claimed to be chosen by Jesus and people believed him and wrote about it. We're supposed to accept that as proof? L. Ron Hubbard and John Smith have just as good a claim if that's your only standard.
just finished watching a 'worlds apart' a danish movie portraying a young jw girl leaving the wt and dealing with the shunning of her family.
this was one of the last thoughts in the movie.
her final prayer to jehovah after being treated harshly by her family and elders.. "jehovah god, this is the last time we talk, because....i don't believe in you anymore".
Less than a year ago I'd have thought the posts in this thread the greatest possible blasphemy one could commit. Today, I'm right there with you.
I still occasionally pray 'to whoever is listening' but it isn't really structured and I'm not afraid to hug my wife while doing it. I feel like it is useful to talk to someone else sometimes, even when no one's there to listen. Kind of like Reb Tevye's discussions with God that help him come to his own conclusions.
"sd-7 is no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.".
i always imagined this day would come.
i'm not sure exactly how i knew.
Your wife has been indoctrinated to believe this:
" So even though unbelievers may promise freedom when they promote a way of life that is at odds with Jehovah’s teachings, any who listen to them will quickly find themselves enslaved to a sinful and degrading lifestyle. " (w-01-15-10)
Now you can prove them wrong. It takes time but you can show her that you will NOT 'quickly find yourself enslaved to a sinful and degrading lifestyle.' Screw the form of "God's Love" that they're selling and just keep yourself in your family's love. Be a good husband and father. She'll come around.
"the truth will set you free!".
" to everyone outside of their organization it is a "sealed book.
" "not open to the understanding of anyone else?
"Freedom is slavery"
"War is peace"
"Ignorance is strength"
"2+2=5"
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?title=jehovah%e2%80%99s+witnesses+students+allowed+new+timings&artid=wsiasqjav4c=§ionid=1zkf/jmwusa=&mainsectionid=1zkf/jmwusa=&seo=pareeksha+bhavan,+john+v+john,+sabbath,+sslc+exami§ionname=x7s7i%7cxoz5y=.
are these administrators confused?
or is this a break off group from the wts/jws?.
Why do I suspect this 'journalist' was actually a student athlete who wrecked his knee and had to fall back on his major for a career?
so to be part of the faithful and discreet slave you just have to sip the wine on memorial night, right?.
then can you go up to brooklyn and say "i'm a member of the faithful slave and now i want to be a member of the governing body"?.
or how does it work?
Also not mentioned yet is that there is almost certainly a 2/3 majority vote of those present required.
the wt literature implies who the faithful slave class is, but has any member of the governing body ever said in print or publicly during a convention talk- "i am one of the f&ds class?".
suppose you see someone in a uniform that looks, uh, police-like, are they real police officers, security officers or just a singer in a music group.
until you see their badge and id card, you don't know.
It's always "third person" language in order to avoid the sort of responsibility Moshe is pointing out. They want the authority without the responsibility. That is why they don't admit who wrote what article, book, chapter, whatever.
Even the "Governing Body 'represents' the Slave Class" language is a cop out because it never really says they're members of it, just the representatives. It's implicit but still not directly stated. And names are rarely used.
Cantleave mentioned 8 people. I thought they were back up to 12. With all the additions and deaths, it's hard to keep track of the GB. What's the current membership?
(Side note: I don't believe the GB wield much authority anymore. The corporation and its financial interests have to come first. They throw the GB a bone now and then by allowing them to assert their authority in print, but this serves to protect corporate from scrutiny from the rank and file, who still mostly think the GB are in control.)
is thinking that because he or she has not been bested at the door that this is a point in his or her favor that they have the "truth".
what this thinking fails to take into account is that people are self-motivated and unless there is some compelling psychological payoff or some monetary payoff in making the sort of investment required to "defeat" the witness argument,(which rarely involves the whole) that they will rarely be engaged except by the few who haven't the mental acumen to understand what constitutes a worthwhile investment.. .
the jw leaves with unwarranted satisfaction on these occasions imagining that this encounter is one more implicit vote in favor of "the truth".
This is why questions are better than statements when working over a dub. They aren't used to thinking but they are used to tuning out statements. Put it in the form of a question (especially if you can make it sound sincere) and they will be forced to consider the answer, even if just for a moment. Plant that seed. Enough seeds and enough water and something will eventually grow.
all comments welcome.
love.
wobble.
I don't even care about "no religion" in the world. I'd just be happy with no more borg-like faiths.
i dare any christian out there to watch this video and try to defend your unloving, no mercy, no forgiveness faith/god that you all claim to have.. anyone in their right mind watches this in disgust.
how can anyone want to serve a god that demands this type of vile behaivor towards others?.
notice the poor ignorant african people being brainwashed into believing this tripe.
Since a large part of this thread seems to be nitpicking, I'll throw another nit in there to pick:
"Despise" doesn't necessarily imply "hatred" or any sort of harm-wishing upon it's object. It may not be a leap to assume that but it's certainly a step at least.
